The Camping Forum

[Curlyminx]

More than happy to move on :-)

[pitkin2020]

OK, that was a defensive post. Can we move on now please?

I fear our mods are away camping and this is going nowhere, and becoming personal.

In your opinion............This thread is quite a good debate and no one has really come under personal attack just their views disagreed with. Sorry but with any debate you will you have some agree and some won't, if they all agree its not a debate and closing this thread serves nothing. In Rex's opinion a SAFE tent constitutes a tent that can with stand hurricanes, whilst others don't agree, where is the issue?

Closing the thread just shows that people aren't allowed opinions and certainly aren't allowed to disagree on this forum and that not only makes for a very boring forum but also limits the view points.

If you don't agree or don't wish to put forward anymore arguments then don't post in the thread and let it run its course

[Curlyminx]

More than happy for anyone to have opinions, and I apologise if I've written anything that others think means I'm not. I really have written opinion a lot lately!

What I was worried about is that things sometimes get personal, and posts are taken the wrong way, which seemed to be happening, and things descend from there. I don't think this is the sort of forum where that usually happens, we are usually a light hearted bunch.

I don't have any strong opinion on this topic at all, I just didn't want to see two valued members of the forum fall out. Sorry if you think I'm interfering, and it is, indeed, just my opinion. :-)

[pitkin2020]

Personally it takes a lot to be offended and I don't think this thread has crossed the line as there have been no personal attacks just a difference of opinion.

When it comes to safest tent one person is going to want one safety feature over another so in reality there is no "ONE SAFEST TENT" award to be given. Whilst the argument for Karsten has been well put forward there are plenty of other safe tents that are capable of with standing what the british weather can throw at them. If that wasn't the case then no one (especially experienced campers) would be using anything other than a karsten. You also have to take personal taste, opinion and finances into account.

The karsten is one damn ugly tent IMO, so are most frame tents to be fair IMO which is why they aren't something I look at but they do have other positives and I can see why people use them. Others seem them as really nice looking tents and tunnel tents and the alike the worse thing ever. Clearly people will never agree on one style/type if they did manufacturers wouldn't have so many variations.

I think when you look at any tent you have to decide what you want from it, if you are someone who is a storm chaser and you can see yourself camping 90% in stormy/hurricane weather a karsten would be a wise investment. If your camping during the usual UK summer months than a far cheaper tent will do the job its been made to do. If your a hiker then you are going to want a lightweight tent. None of those options make a tent less safe than the other as they all have different requirements from the end user.

[M0KAS]

I think the thread has run its course, everyone will have their own opinions, what they want in a tent ect... no one tent will cover all things, every bodies needs from a tent are different..

At the end of the day its for the powers that be to decide when the line has been crossed, and too many heated discussions that cross the line, have 2 endings, 1 they run there course and then drop out, 2 they get moderated and then people accuse of over moderation, but the end result is that visitors to the site see the discussion, then that could decide if they want to join or not..

IMHO, the thread has been close to it, but hasn't crossed my line yet, (there again im just a mere mortal, and I don't have the the headaches of these poor moderators, deciding when the line has been crossed)

Yes the forum is a great place to have discussions, and opinions, on things, just because people have a strong passion for a make or model of an item, does not mean that your right or wrong, but trying to make everybody think that way is best, does not work, we are all individuals and have to make our own choices, if we were all the same the forum would be rather dull.

Ill get off my camping stool now before someone pokes me off it with a pointed tent pole

[pitkin2020]

Ill get off my camping stool now before someone pokes me off it with a pointed tent pole

....or an over inflated pole (double pun) lol.

[M0KAS]

Ill get off my camping stool now before someone pokes me off it with a pointed tent pole

....or an over inflated pole (double pun) lol.

wouldnt they have to throw the tent at me then????

[pitkin2020]

Ill get off my camping stool now before someone pokes me off it with a pointed tent pole

....or an over inflated pole (double pun) lol.

wouldnt they have to throw the tent at me then????

don't be silly they just make you sit on the tube and inflate it to 6psi and it'll explode sending you skywards

[nutgone]

I think this thread has actually stayed very civil, it's remained heated but still without any personal attacks or bad feeling.

I mean, at first Pitkin & I had some great agreement with my views on families enduring bad weather conditions, only to disagree with my opinions on the Airbeam tents, but it never got out of hand or personal, & even to say it was heated would probably be too strong a term for description.

I like this forum, & I think this topic/thread has only gone to prove what a friendly place this forum really is. I've always got on with Rex in the past, & feel quite friendly with quite a few other members, even though I've never met any of you, but I've ended up showing some controversial opinions on a very popular tent by a very popular company here, not to mention my controversy with Rex & his opinions, but I don't feel I've left anyone with any hard feelings have I been left with none myself.

OK, so it may well have run it's course now, but I feel, if nothing else, this thread has proved that we can all "play nice", & although it may have got heated in parts, I don't think anyone has lost any friends here.

[pitkin2020]

I think this thread has actually stayed very civil, it's remained heated but still without any personal attacks or bad feeling.

I mean, at first Pitkin & I had some great agreement with my views on families enduring bad weather conditions, only to disagree with my opinions on the Airbeam tents, but it never got out of hand or personal, & even to say it was heated would probably be too strong a term for description.

I like this forum, & I think this topic/thread has only gone to prove what a friendly place this forum really is. I've always got on with Rex in the past, & feel quite friendly with quite a few other members, even though I've never met any of you, but I've ended up showing some controversial opinions on a very popular tent by a very popular company here, not to mention my controversy with Rex & his opinions, but I don't feel I've left anyone with any hard feelings have I been left with none myself.

OK, so it may well have run it's course now, but I feel, if nothing else, this thread has proved that we can all "play nice", & although it may have got heated in parts, I don't think anyone has lost any friends here.

this could have been become very personal but I think people have remained to give their opinion in their own way without resorting to name calling as such. I do think this thread gone have gone either way a time but has remained on the right side at all times and has remained as a debate nothing more. It has certainly showed that the coin does indeed have two sides and what one person considers to be the most important safety feature isn't the most important safety feature to some one else.

[Wayne]

I don't plan to lock it down and I don't imagine any of the others do. As said, its stayed civil, heated yes, but civil.
Its started a little predictable with Rex trying to tell us how good Karsten tents are, which is fine. I don't own a Karsten, I've never been up close to a Karsten and I enjoyed learning a little about them a few threads back. I have to be honest though, I get it now .