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German Unwelt Zones

Postby AlanI on Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:45 pm

Hi all,

New member here and have spent several hours already reading through the various sections. Must say that there is a lot of very useful information already posted from which I have learned a lot and no doubt shall continue learning. :lol: I feel sure that over the coming months as the wife and I prepare for the 2012 season I'll be posting quite a few questions of my own as well.

Anyway, moving on to the real purpose of this post. In one of the threads (can't remember which one now but dated some time ago) mention was made of the German 'Unwelt Zones' introduced a few years ago now. Since that time a few changes have been made and so I thought a timely reminder for those considering visiting or passing through Germany in 2012 might come in handy.

As a reminder the original sign looked like the image posted below. These signs can now be found on the outskirts of an increasing number of German towns and cities including the approach roads (main roads) even though one might not be stopping in the town/city itself. The best way of visualizing it is to think of a ring encircling any particular town/city in which vehicle emissions are tightly regulated.

The 'Red', 'Yellow' and 'Green' discs on the sign correspond to the 'sticker' that each vehicle must display on the bottom right hand corner of the windshield. If your vehicle carries the corresponding sticker you are allowed entry past the boundary of the road shield. For example, if your vehicle carries a 'Red' sticker then you are allowed to proceed past the shield and enter into the 'Unwelt Zone'.

In the above paragraph I deliberately chose the 'Red' sticker as an example because as these 'Unwelt Zones' have been in existence for quite some time now, and with a corresponding drive by the Government to do away with older vehicles or those not meeting the latest exhaust emission standards by offering a subsidy to owners choosing to replace their vehicles, the displayed 'Unwelt Zone' road sign is now being amended by an increasing number of town/city authorities.

What you are likely to find now is that the 'Red' circle on the road sign is crossed out (or completely removed in some cases) which translates to that only vehicles carrying either a 'Yellow' or 'Green' sticker are allowed entry. In the next year or two the intention is that the 'Yellow' circle will be removed translating to that only vehicles with a 'Green' sticker may proceed into or through the zone.

Now, you may think that by having a fairly modern vehicle this won't be of concern to you. However, you'd be surprised how many owners here in Germany, including several luxury models, can't now legally enter into the town/city where they live. Some vehicle owners initially warranting a 'Red' sticker have been (at great cost) able to mechanically improve their vehicles emission but very many haven't been able to and are now essentially stuck with a piece of junk.

The cost of these stickers is between €5 - €8 and can be obtained through any Dekra/TUV (equivalent to the UK's MOT testing stations) on production of the vehicles registration papers. However, as to the best of my knowledge UK car registration papers (unlike those in Germany) do not carry the emission standard of the vehicle and so either the vehicle will be subjected to a test or the date of first registration is used as the basis for classification.

Recent changes to EU law mean that any road traffic fines incurred in an EU country can be forwarded to your country of residence (if in EU) where an additional administrative cost will be also be incurred. In short then, non compliance with the carrying of an approved sticker can be quite costly. It is possible to order stickers prior to a trip by submitting Registration Documents via fax or e-mail (as a scanned document) or as a copy by post. The sticker will then be forwarded by post but postage costs will have to be paid on top of the cost of the sticker. For members of the AA/RAC I would strongly advice popping into one of their offices and seeking assistance prior to any intended trips.

My apologies if this first post of mine has been rather long but I thought that this information may come in useful for a few members.
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Re: German Unwelt Zones

Postby badger on Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:54 pm

I dont drive; i do cycle touring so it doesn't affect me but well done for such an important bit of info.. I had no idea about such a thing and i am sure some members will find this very handy to know. I reckon you have just saved some members some Euro's..... :clap:
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Re: German Unwelt Zones

Postby badger on Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:58 pm

DOH!!! :bang: :welcome: (got a bad memory!)
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Re: German Unwelt Zones

Postby Camp Moose on Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:02 pm

Thanks for this, I'll read up on it more in due course.
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Re: German Unwelt Zones

Postby Wayne on Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:13 pm

Hi and a warm welcome to the forum.

Cracking first post and interesting :cool:




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Re: German Unwelt Zones

Postby Admin on Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:56 pm

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Re: German Unwelt Zones

Postby rexgrant on Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:27 pm

Hi Alan
:welcome: and thank you for the information, I had no idea that it existed.
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Re: German Unwelt Zones

Postby Camp Moose on Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:47 pm

Have been looking at this webpage.
Excellent map of area concerned.
http://www.umwelt-plakette.de/int_england.php



I just noticed Cologne had it's UZ in place in early 2008.
I drove around the city centre blissfully unaware that August.
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Re: German Unwelt Zones

Postby badger on Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:55 am

tut tut Camp Moose.... wonder if anyone from England been done for it? :think:
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German Unwelt Zones

Postby Curlyminx on Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:53 pm

Welcome, what a great first post!
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Re: German Unwelt Zones

Postby M0KAS on Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:06 am

I think it was in 2001 that the UK started putting emission levels on the V5,, and considering in the UK all cars must pass the emissions test on the MOT, so I should think that most cars should be ok to drive through Germany, (depending on what the coloured disk levels are). I dont drive outside the UK, so it wont affect me, (well until the comedians in London decide we have to have circle stickers, and it probably originated from Belgium too)...


Reading that web page that was put up before, its a private company doing it all, and they charge the none Germans more for their sticker too, what a way to generate cash, dont tell the British government lol
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Re: German Unwelt Zones

Postby Camp Moose on Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:52 pm

Just chatting with a British chap who lives in Berlin, he says this.

My Citroen Diesel Piccasa only has a Yellow disc and so I cannot travel inside the "S" Bahn inner ring, basically the Motorway at Charlottenburg.
Luckily my wife's car has a green disc and so there is not normally a problem.
I once forgot and travelled into the ""Forbidden Zone" but I went undetected!!
There is talk of the disc size being reduced and fixed on the front number plate as the MOT sticker (TÜV) has been removed from the front plate and I am told it will just replace it.
This is to enable big brother reading cameras to spot the colour of the disc and photograph you as you commit an offence!!! Fixed penalty later in post.
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Re: German Unwelt Zones

Postby AlanI on Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:53 pm

Thanks for the welcome friends - much appreciated.

@ MOKAS - it's not a case of passing an emission test but rather meeting an emission standard. Cars here in Germany are first tested (your MOT) after a period of 3 years and then bi-annually. It's fair to say that unless you're driving an old heap (not seen often here LOL) then the car is going to pass the emission test as applies to that vehicle all things being equal. However, passing the relevant emission test is quite different to meeting the standard as set for the various coloured labels so it's worth noting the distinction here.

If you want a laugh I'll give you one. My wife's car (a VW Golf V) doesn't meet the standard as far as diesel cars go in order to attract a lower road tax premium. Why? Well because her car doesn't have a particle filter fitted and is therefore considered unfriendly to the environment. As a penalty she has to pay €30 more a year in road tax than the equivalent car that has had a retro particle filter fitted. The particle filter itself costs in the region of €500 to have fitted so you can work out for yourself how many people (including the wife) have chosen to have it fitted.

That said, her car does meet the requirements for a Green sticker meaning she can drive into any present or future Unwelt Zone.

Now tell me that we Germans don't have a sense of humour. :rofl2:
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