The Camping Forum

[antiguaman]

Hi,

I'm a new camper, first trip setup for next week, and were in the process of buying all the kit (seems never ending)

Anyway were looking to buy the Campingaz 3in1 Stove, and opting for the R model as long term think this will work out more cost effective

However am I right in thinking that if I wanted to use canister options I could just buy the CV model regulator, which is available as a spare from Campingaz

Are then any complications that I'm not aware of ?

[nutgone]

They look extremely similar, but without actually going into a shop & viewing one, I couldn't tell you.

One way to find out would be to look at the specification for the CV type's regulator. If it regulates the gas from the canister down to 28mbar then yes, it would work with the R version, as the R version will work from any supply of butane at 28mbar or propane at 37mbar. (butane may even be 28-30mbar, many appliances are these days). Also, the regulator would need to have the correct gas hose nozzle size (probably 8mm) to connect to the stove.

But, like I say, without a bit more digging, I couldn't be certain.

I'm not a massive fan of these types of stoves anyway. I've always found a god double burner stove (with grill if poss) & a god assortment of cookware is far more useful. At the end of the day, all you have here is one burner. You can buy some very good cast ally camping griddles to go on top of gas burners, that way you're not stuck with it all the time. 8 mins isn't a very good boiling time either.

I will carry on digging though, see if I can answer your question......

[nutgone]

If you look here:
http://www.campingaz.com/trade/documents/After-Sales%20data/CGZ%20RECHAUD%201%20FEU/3%20EN%201%20GRILL%20CV%20R.pdf
You will find an exploded diagram of the stove. They have all the same part numbers except for the regulators. So I would say they are identical.

[antiguaman]

If you look here:
http://www.campingaz.com/trade/documents/After-Sales%20data/CGZ%20RECHAUD%201%20FEU/3%20EN%201%20GRILL%20CV%20R.pdf
You will find an exploded diagram of the stove. They have all the same part numbers except for the regulators. So I would say they are identical.

Thanks for the reply

I had previously seen the exploded parts diagram and the reason for my original post

To me it would seem that for either model with both regulators you have the best of both worlds if that makes sense

With both regulators you would have the choice of R and CV usage

Would you agree?

Regarding the usage we really struggled on which cooker to buy being new to this
Other models with 2 burners one grill seemed a bit flimsy and grill too small

We opted for this as we liked and prefer the grill/griddle option and also have a smaller separate single ring burne

What would you recommend as a better option

[nutgone]

If you already have a small single burner then it shouldn't be such a problem. I personally use a coleman 424 petrol stove, but there's no way I would recommend that to someone who's new to camping, not unless I wanted to scare them off for ever!

I just thought some of these griddle type stoves can be a bit of a gimmick, but Camping Gaz is certainly a trustworthy brand, & it does look quite useful.

I would recommend you take your single burner along with you, as well as this 3-in-1. It's surprising how much you can do with one burner, but it's always handy to have another one to hand, just in case

As for grills, I think most people only use them for toast anyway, & there's plenty of other ways to make that.
I don't have a grill on my cooker & manage just fine.

Breakfast is probably going to be the busy time for your cooker, not every day but the days you do decide on the full English with a piping hot cup of tea.

(OK, now I'm hungry)

Hope this helps.

[antiguaman]

Thanks for that and most useful info

will defo be taking the single ring as well, if only to get the kettle on

I did like the look of the coleman, dual burners and single burners/grill options but was not too keen on the colemans cartridge only option, - I dont do restrictions

looking forward to firing up the grill on our 1st trip next week, will let you now how it performs

[nutgone]

Would be nice to get a customer review of it for in-a-tent, it's not just tents they review, it's all camping equipment. I haven't checked if they've already got a review yet, but it's always nice to get a few different peoples opinions on an item.

It's also nice when people do come back & let us know how they got on.

Wish you the beats of luck with it all. I'm off camping myself tomorrow, for the bankholiday weekend. Only local (actually walking distance) but will be nice anyway. 3 days at a steam rally with my old car.

[shusspenfold]

hello.......
first post on here so i hope its in the right place..
I bought the campingaz 3 in 1 grill last week... at the bargain price of £45..
the model i chose was the CV (cartridge) type... bursting to try it out I took it out to the park with a few friends for a picnic.

I would whole heartedly recommend this grill... the build quality is excellent with even my cadac owning friends being impressed.... However.......
after only an hour the bottle/cartridge is nearly empty and at £7 a hit i feel that's expensive..
also I feel that the hose is far too short and have replaced it already (£3) for a longer one.

given the choice again i would buy the other version with the bigger gas bottle options....

hope this helps

paul

[antiguaman]

hello.......
first post on here so i hope its in the right place..
I bought the campingaz 3 in 1 grill last week... at the bargain price of £45..
the model i chose was the CV (cartridge) type... bursting to try it out I took it out to the park with a few friends for a picnic.

I would whole heartedly recommend this grill... the build quality is excellent with even my cadac owning friends being impressed.... However.......
after only an hour the bottle/cartridge is nearly empty and at £7 a hit i feel that's expensive..
also I feel that the hose is far too short and have replaced it already (£3) for a longer one.

given the choice again i would buy the other version with the bigger gas bottle options....

hope this helps

Paul I'm not 100% but pretty sure that the only difference between the two versions is the regulator and hose

Therefore if you buy the hose and regulator for the R version you will have the best of both worlds

There is a link in one of the earlier posts for the parts

We used our R model last week and found it to be excellent

Did a great job with breakfast especially bacon and eggs on the griddle plate

Also managed to chicken breasts for fajitas

Only slight downside is no heat adjustment control other than via the regulator but other than that build quality and portability is excellent and would recommend to others
paul

[nutgone]

hello.......
first post on here so i hope its in the right place..
I bought the campingaz 3 in 1 grill last week... at the bargain price of £45..
the model i chose was the CV (cartridge) type... bursting to try it out I took it out to the park with a few friends for a picnic.

I would whole heartedly recommend this grill... the build quality is excellent with even my cadac owning friends being impressed.... However.......
after only an hour the bottle/cartridge is nearly empty and at £7 a hit i feel that's expensive..
also I feel that the hose is far too short and have replaced it already (£3) for a longer one.

given the choice again i would buy the other version with the bigger gas bottle options....

hope this helps

paul

If the hose is ordinary 8mm gas hose then it should fit on any ordinary gas regulator. You'll probably be better off with a Camping Gaz 907 bottle & regulator though, as the regulator tap will give you some flame control.

Otherwise get spare part number "5010001015" from this Camping Gaz spare parts diagram: http://www.campingaz.com/trade/documents/After-Sales%20data/CGZ%20RECHAUD%201%20FEU/3%20EN%201%20GRILL%20CV%20R.pdf
That, coupled with a 907 cylinder will work out a lot cheaper for you.

I'm surprised to see these have no control on them, especially for the money. They sound well built though & I'm glad they're doing the 2 of you good service

Oh yes, & to the forum.

[antiguaman]

I have the R version with the regulator and 907 bottle and it did give us some control although pretty minimal trying to adjust the flow without the stove going out

We completely overlooked the control option when choosing this model but it's not the end of the world as with larger plates items can be moved to one side off the beat slightly

Pretty sure that the hose is identical looking at the parts diagram and therefore just a different regulator required

[nutgone]

TBH most camping stoves only give very limited control anyway. They nearly all take some getting used to.

My Coleman 424 can be very difficult, as the 2nd burner is a slave burner, working from the main one. So, when you open up the 2nd burner the main one goes down slightly, & vice versa. But, to complicate things further, if you turn the main burner up or down it effects both burners. To top it all off you have to keep the pressure up in the main fuel tank, which is OK when it's full, but if you're dragging out the last few drops of fuel & it's mainly air in there, you're forever pumping up pressure in the tank!
So it's a bit of a juggling act trying to keep things at the right temperature.
Surprisingly easy though, it's amazing what you can get away with, cooking outdoors, & how little control you actually need.