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A Cooking Shield

Postby tkelly-lord on Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:14 pm

Hi all,

following on from a previous post (searching for a problem to solve through product design) I quite like the idea of designing a cooking shield. What I mean by this is a shield to guard your stove/cooking area from wind and rain.

I would love to here your feedback on this;

- If you think it is a good enough problem to solve.
- What the product should be/do (easy to put up/take down, stable in wind, size? etc)
- What solutions you currently use to try and protect your stove from wind/rain (gazebo's, door of tent etc).

Thanks guys,

Look forward to your responses!

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Re: A Cooking Shield

Postby Admin on Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:24 pm

tkelly-lord wrote:Hi all,

following on from a previous post (searching for a problem to solve through product design) I quite like the idea of designing a cooking shield. What I mean by this is a shield to guard your stove/cooking area from wind and rain.

I would love to here your feedback on this;

- If you think it is a good enough problem to solve.
- What the product should be/do (easy to put up/take down, stable in wind, size? etc)
- What solutions you currently use to try and protect your stove from wind/rain (gazebo's, door of tent etc).

Thanks guys,

Look forward to your responses!

Tom



I think you are heading in the right direction. and if im honest I have been looking for a solution to a slightly different problem but close to this.

Modern tents you cannot cook inside (not unless you have the large frame/trailer tent) So most of us place the cooking stand and stove inside an extension or tarp. infact ours is pretty close to the wall of the extension and i do worry food and more importantly fat spitting on the wall of the extension.. (they are not cheap) and have thought about some sort of adjustable plastic shield.. adjustable in height and curve (walls of extension are often curved inwards towards the roof. (think arch))

Now that is a problem that needs solving in my opinion.. as their is nothing on the market for it..
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Re: A Cooking Shield

Postby MrsPitStop on Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:58 pm

Here are some pics of our current set, up we use the door of the tent for protection from the rain and a windshied and windbreak, but found a lot of the problem was the wind would just go around what you had in place and blow in from the front. Our kitchen stand is a basic stand there are many more elaborate ones available but none would offer any of the protection below.

So if there was a way of having 360 protection and some sort of cover that could go over to keep you and your food dry that would be great. The other thing to remember is it would have to be able to pack down for transport and be fairly light weight but strong and stable.

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Re: A Cooking Shield

Postby tkelly-lord on Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:52 pm

Thank you for the replies so far. Concerning cooking in the extension, other the spitting of fat, does this seem like a fairly practical solution to combating the wind and rain. Are there other negatives of cooking in the extension of a tent?

Thank you so much for the photo's Penni. My initial thoughts of the 'shield' would be a lot smaller than your current set up, maybe sometihng 3 or 4 foot tall that covers the stove (like you say 360 degress and on top from rain), however you do not walk in, maybe lift off a lid or open one side to access the stove.

Let me know your thoughts

Thanks guys, really appreciate your help

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Re: A Cooking Shield

Postby Donnelly69 on Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:04 pm

[/quote]Modern tents you cannot cook inside (not unless you have the large frame/trailer tent)[/quote]

Sorry Guys, I need to disagree with of some you on this one........... :oops: :D

I don't understand why most people on here seem to think you cannot cook inside your spacious mega domes or multi hooped tunnel tents? I have a large Cabanon frame tent, a small Cabanon frame, Outwell Trout lake tunnel, Blacks Cairngorm Tunnel, small Hilleberg tunnel and a Terra Nova Quasar (among others!! :lol: ) and I cook inside of all of these. What do you think happens in the mountains when it's minus 5 and gale force winds - you cook in the porch or even in the inner. Regardless of the tent, as long as BASIC, sensible precautions are taken, there is nothing to worry about. :D E.g. Place the stove on a solid, sturdy stand, provide as much ventilation as required, keep kids and pets away, allow plenty of airflow behind and above the stove etc. etc. etc. Common sense.

When it comes to spitting fat, simples :roll: don't use it, if you think it is going to splash on the tent. Instead of fried eggs - try poached, instead of fried bacon - try grilling it instead or 'fry' it in a couple of table spoons of water (that's how I now do all my bacon - lovely!) As well of thinking about your tent - think of your heart. :D :D

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Re: A Cooking Shield

Postby in-a-tent on Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:21 pm

My understanding of the issue is this.

1. Modern poly tent material is quite flammable, far more flammable than canvas.
2. In a tent with a SIG if there is a fire there are limited exit routes, in an old fashioned frame tent you can nip under the side anywhere.

I think that's the reason cooking inside a modern tent is not recommended (I am prob. wrong btw)

That said if you cook under an extension / porch when there are people inside the tent I can't really see how that differs.

Out trailer tent awning (admittedly canvas with no SIG) has a specific area inside it for the kitchen. so who knows.
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Re: A Cooking Shield

Postby Wayne on Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:42 am

I cook in the front awning (that's attached to the Vermont) of our tent, next to the open window. I wouldn't cook in the main tent, simple because I wouldn't want all the sleeping stuff smelling like a kitchen. We normally fry with a little Olive Oil.




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Re: A Cooking Shield

Postby livsnana on Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:20 pm

Well at the moment if it rains I am under a brollie! :rofl2:
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Re: A Cooking Shield

Postby MrsPitStop on Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:32 pm

Well one evening I had all the vents fully open and one side of the big front door zipped open and after 10mins of the gas light on and the kettle on the hob I felt a little drunk (no I hadn't had a drink) felt like I had my sea legs on so after that decided not to do it again. :?
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Re: A Cooking Shield

Postby buddy on Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:48 am

its quite simple you do what you have to do under the circumstances ur in at the time, in small tents you have no choice but to cook or make drink in the tent in bad weather, survial is all about u do wot ever it takes so you will survive, 1 piece ov foil over your stove will stop fat spitting onto the tent it will help cook quicker 2 if its windy,up them mountains or densed areas in bad weather u need 3 things to survive 1st ur tent so u make sure it dnt go on fire 2nd water and food prefrabley hot ,as long as that flames coverd its restricted and aslong as u dnt leave it unattended you and ur tent will be safe from fire and any danger to you or your little ones happy camping and cooking :D
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Re: A Cooking Shield

Postby Wayne on Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:47 pm

buddy wrote:its quite simple you do what you have to do under the circumstances ur in at the time, in small tents you have no choice but to cook or make drink in the tent in bad weather, survial is all about u do wot ever it takes so you will survive, 1 piece ov foil over your stove will stop fat spitting onto the tent it will help cook quicker 2 if its windy,up them mountains or densed areas in bad weather u need 3 things to survive 1st ur tent so u make sure it dnt go on fire 2nd water and food prefrabley hot ,as long as that flames coverd its restricted and aslong as u dnt leave it unattended you and ur tent will be safe from fire and any danger to you or your little ones happy camping and cooking :D


Yeh, seems like a fair point, can't argue with that.




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